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mrs-annie-odair-deactivated2012 asked: And the fact that I'm not a believer doesn't have anything to do with the fact that none of this makes sense to me. The reason why it doesn't make sense to me is because there are huge holes in your logic and because what you're saying isn't factually accurate. Stop trying to act all superior just because you're a Christian and I'm not. I mean, Christ never acted that way, so why should you? Would it really be so hard for you to be respectful to me?

quietly-living-lifeasked you:
So you’re saying that you don’t care how emotionally and mentally harmful it is for homosexuals to repress their natural same-sex thoughts and feelings and to lie to themselves and others by pretending to be straight? Why do you seem to care more about your religious beliefs than you do about the emotional and mental well-being of others? I mean, how can you possibly think it isn’t hateful to refuse to care about another person’s well-being?
No I’m not saying “I do not care about people’s emotional and mental state.” Bible says for us to care for peoples state of beings (Romans 12:15). So therefore I practice that.

I gave you a perfectly fitting situation in my last response stating I am born in a sinful state therefore I am naturally inclined to sin - but because I have given my life to God and repented I refrain from doing these things with the help of the Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:16-25)

Yes it is troubling (at first) and difficult to fight against what you find natural in the flesh (for things of the spirit go against the flesh) but God fills that gap for us.

It is a part of my religious beliefs to care for the mental/spiritual/emotional well beings of others, so to say that I do not care for that is erroneous. I declare the truth of a matter as given by the Word of God and it tends to be black and white on matters of right in wrong. This does not mean it doesn’t care - the Bible (and Christ) fully understand the weight of temptation and what we endure as men, for He became one of us (Jesus Christ).

I am not telling people to be this or that, I am saying that you should understand the life you are living is wrong, and that true identity and satisfaction (including Salvation) is found in Christ. 

No one has to lie to themselves to walk away from their sin, they simply must die to themselves. (See here)

So with that said, I do not NOT CARE about people, you made that up, therefore answering the last question is useless. (But on that note, not caring about something does not equal hate, it is called APATHY which is stupid).

 
Also, as for your claim that it’s not mentally harmful for homosexuals to pretend to be straight and to repress their natural sexual thoughts and feelings, the American Psychological Association says otherwise. So, tell me, why shouldn’t I trust what the APA has to say? I mean, I’m pretty sure that the members of the APA are a lot more highly-educated than you are, especially on this topic, so there’s really no reason why I shouldn’t take them at their word.
Again, I am calling for all sinner, myself included, to die to themselves and repent and turn to God. This is what we need for salvation. The Holy Spirit provides the strength and opportunity for us to do that (as I have noted). The APA measure what they do by what they know. The APA does not concern themselves with the things of the Spiritual world. I do, because I profess God. That given, I am not claiming that I am smarter or more well off in dealing with things than the APA. But given that I am dealing with a spiritual issue and I am consulting the Word of God for that, I must say, the Word of God (not myself) is greater than the APA.

Whereas the APA’s decisions change when more and more facts are found overtime, the Word of God remains the same- perfect. (I know that you thing the Bible is changed and what not, but I can assure you that it has not been- I’m simply waiting to answer your post concerning the bible until I have more time and am not studying, in the meantime look up the Dead Sea Scroll).

And the fact that I’m not a believer doesn’t have anything to do with the fact that none of this makes sense to me. The reason why it doesn’t make sense to me is because there are huge holes in your logic and because what you’re saying isn’t factually accurate. Stop trying to act all superior just because you’re a Christian and I’m not. I mean, Christ never acted that way, so why should you? Would it really be so hard for you to be respectful to me?
The fact that you are not a believer DOES have a gage on whether this make sense because I am using language from the Bible that has different connotation and denotation in the secular world and because you have been unable to experience/see from the believers perspective -the truth of the Gospels.

The Bible says:

4It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, 6if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance,

Meaning - once you know the Truth of the Gospel and experience the Holy Spirit, you cannot return to the truth of God if you fall away (if you can fall away) because it is THAT potent and THAT (obviously) True.

I, my dear, do not have holes in my logic. I have Christ in my logic, and if that sounds foolish to you (like I was saying before this might not make sense because you are a non-believer) it is because I am a fool.

We are fools for Christ, but you are so wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are strong! You are honored, we are dishonored!

I am not trying to act Superior to you, at all. I am simply trying to tell you that the understanding I am giving you is a spirit understanding that is hard to swallow when it isn’t 1. taken with faith 2. taken with belief 3. experience. This is why Christian preach Christ and Him Crucified before such difficult things as this, because it can get distracting. But given you are asking said question, I am providing you an answer from the Biblical world view.

Christ did not act superior, and neither am I. Like I said, I am just warning you that some of this will be hard to understand.

I have not been disrespectful to you. If I have I apologize, but I do not see when or where I was disrespectful to you. I do have a tendency to come off strong and heavy handed so I apologize for that.

I must be mindful of what Paul said to Timothy

23Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24And the Lord’s servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. 25Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, 26and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.
So I pray that my responses give you insight and wisdom on the Biblical perspective of the issue, and not to create a “fight”. Remember, I seek to remove myself from the discussion by providing Biblical responses. If you detest the answers, your anger or strife is not with myself, it is with God and His word.

GB 
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